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{{Infobox_character
{{Infobox_character
|image =Old Ivan.jpg
|image = Old Ivan.jpg
|gender = Male
|gender = Male
|status = Deceased (died six years 9 months and 26 days from departure aged 84)
|status = Deceased (died six years 9 months and 26 days from departure aged 84)
|cause_of_death = Suicide by hanging
|cause_of_death = Suicide by hanging
|friends = [[Andre Layton]]<br>[[Josie Wellstead]]<br>[[Miles]]<br>[[Mama Grandé]] &dagger;<br>[[Pike]] &dagger;<br>[[Lights]]
|friends = [[Andre Layton]]<br>[[Josie Wellstead]]<br>[[Miles]]<br>[[Mama Grandé]] <br>[[Pike]] <br>[[Lights]]
|occupation = Pianist (formerly)
|occupation = Pianist (formerly)
|portrayer = [[Mark Margolis]]
|portrayer = [[Mark Margolis]]
|seasons = [[Season 1]]
|appears_in = [[Snowpiercer (TV Series)]] <br> • [[Season 1]]
|appears_in = ''[[Snowpiercer (TV Series)|Snowpiercer]]''
|first_appearance = [[First, the Weather Changed]]
|first_appearance = [[First, the Weather Changed]]
|last_appearance = [[First, the Weather Changed]]|hair_color = Grey|eye_color = Hazel|class = [[The Tail|Tailie]]}}
|last_appearance = [[First, the Weather Changed]]
|hair_color = Grey
|eye_color = Hazel
|class = [[The Tail|Tailie]]
|language_spoken=English
|romances=Unnamed wife †}}
{{Quote|Resistance is never futile, but Wilford's train is a fortress to class. Maybe it is perpetual.|Old Ivan to [[Andre Layton|Layton]], the night before planned rebellion.}}
{{Quote|Resistance is never futile, but Wilford's train is a fortress to class. Maybe it is perpetual.|Old Ivan to [[Andre Layton|Layton]], the night before planned rebellion.}}


'''Old Ivan''' is a recurring character in [[TNT]]'s [[Snowpiercer (TV Series)|Snowpiercer]]. He is portrayed by [[Mark Margolis]].
'''Old Ivan''' is a recurring character in [[TNT]]'s [[Snowpiercer (TV Series)|Snowpiercer]]. He is portrayed by [[Mark Margolis]].
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== History ==
== History ==
=== Background ===
Old Ivan had boarded Snowpiercer when he was 78 and that he had a wife before he boarded. During his 3rd year aboard the train the tail revolted but was defeated and he, along with 12 others later, had one of their arms lost as punishment. At some point he was also brought up past the [[Night Car]] to tune a piano.
Old Ivan had boarded Snowpiercer when he was 78 and that he had a wife before he boarded. During his 3rd year aboard the train the tail revolted but was defeated and he, along with 12 others later, had one of their arms lost as punishment. At some point he was also brought up past the [[Night Car]] to tune a piano.


Old Ivan have a decent mathematics knowledge despite his age. He would occasionally tutor [[Miles]]. He taught Miles sines, cosines and tangents on the last day of his life. He’s also a decent chess player.
Old Ivan have a decent mathematics knowledge despite his age. He would occasionally tutor [[Miles]]. He taught Miles sines, cosines and tangents on the last day of his life. He’s also a decent chess player.
He is also [[Andre Layton]]’s mentor. As mentioned in ''[[The Time of Two Engines]]''.


==Throughout The Series ==
==Throughout The Series ==
===Death===
===Death===
He is shown to be one of the leading members of the Tail, and was a member of the small group in charge of planning the rebellion. During his birthday, he requested an hour alone with the only phone in the Tail so he could listen to a [[wikipedia:Sergey Rachmaninoff|Rachmaninoff]] recording. His request was accepted by the other Tailies, and he played music whilst looking at old photographs of his wife. Shortly after, he hanged himself with the phone's electrical cord.
He is shown to be one of the leading members of the Tail, and was a member of the [[Tailie War Council]] which planned the insurrection. He would stand in the front line, ready to fight in the planned day (which didn't succeed because Layton)
 
During his birthday, he requested an hour alone with the only phone in the Tail so he could listen to a [[wikipedia:Sergey Rachmaninoff|Rachmaninoff]] recording. His request was accepted by the other Tailies, and he played music whilst looking at old photographs of his wife. Shortly after, he hanged himself with the phone's electrical cord.


He was found shortly after, and his death was a catalyst for [[Pike]]'s reaction and enactment of the rebellion.<ref>''[[Access Is Power]]''</ref>
He was found shortly after, and his death was a catalyst for [[Pike]]'s reaction and enactment of the rebellion.<ref>''[[Access Is Power]]''</ref>
=== Legacy ===
In ''[[Smolder to Life]]'', Layton mentioned Old Ivan again when talking to [[Melanie Cavill|Melanie]] in [[The Engine]], discussing about [[Joseph Wilford|Wilford]] and his plan.
In ''[[Born to Bleed]]'', [[Andre Layton|Layton]] reminded [[Pike]] how sorry he is for Old Ivan's death.


== Personality ==
== Personality ==
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==Trivia==
==Trivia==
*He hung himself on his birthday.
*He hung himself on his birthday.
*He is likely Russian due to his name.
*He is likely a Russian due to his name.
*He owned a tuning fork, that he held in his hand when hung himself and it dropped.
*He owned a tuning fork, that he held in his hand when hung himself and it dropped.
*He listen to Rachmaninoff, Piano Concerto No 2.
*He listen to Rachmaninoff, Piano Concerto No 2.
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==References==
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[[Category:Males]]
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[[Category:Recurring Characters]]
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Latest revision as of 14:25, 9 April 2023

Resistance is never futile, but Wilford's train is a fortress to class. Maybe it is perpetual.
— Old Ivan to Layton, the night before planned rebellion.

Old Ivan is a recurring character in TNT's Snowpiercer. He is portrayed by Mark Margolis.

He was the oldest person on Snowpiercer and a longstanding, respected member of the Tail.

History[edit | edit source]

Old Ivan had boarded Snowpiercer when he was 78 and that he had a wife before he boarded. During his 3rd year aboard the train the tail revolted but was defeated and he, along with 12 others later, had one of their arms lost as punishment. At some point he was also brought up past the Night Car to tune a piano.

Old Ivan have a decent mathematics knowledge despite his age. He would occasionally tutor Miles. He taught Miles sines, cosines and tangents on the last day of his life. He’s also a decent chess player.

Throughout The Series[edit | edit source]

Death[edit | edit source]

He is shown to be one of the leading members of the Tail, and was a member of the Tailie War Council which planned the insurrection. He would stand in the front line, ready to fight in the planned day (which didn't succeed because Layton)

During his birthday, he requested an hour alone with the only phone in the Tail so he could listen to a Rachmaninoff recording. His request was accepted by the other Tailies, and he played music whilst looking at old photographs of his wife. Shortly after, he hanged himself with the phone's electrical cord.

He was found shortly after, and his death was a catalyst for Pike's reaction and enactment of the rebellion.[1]

Legacy[edit | edit source]

In Smolder to Life, Layton mentioned Old Ivan again when talking to Melanie in The Engine, discussing about Wilford and his plan.

In Born to Bleed, Layton reminded Pike how sorry he is for Old Ivan's death.

Personality[edit | edit source]

Appearances[edit | edit source]

Appearance EP1 EP2 EP3 EP4 EP5 EP6 EP7 EP8 EP9 EP10
Season 1
Season 2 M
Season 3 M
Season 4
Appeared Did Not Appeared H = Hallucinations
V = Voiced M = Mentioned F = Flashback

Memorable Quotes[edit | edit source]

Old Ivan: "I will never be too old to remember the day they pulled me uptrain to tune a piano. It played beautifully except for one dead key... middle C. I guess no one remembered to bring some..."
Pike: "To bring piano wire, yeah. With all due respect, we heard it before, and this doesn't exactly fill the belly."
―  Ivan talking about the day he got out of The Tail.


Here. [Hands Layton a knife] You will do better with this than me. Resistance is never futile, but Wilford’s train is a fortress to class. Maybe it is perpetual. (...) Good luck my boy.
— Old Ivan to Layton as tomorrow The Tail plans to fight.

Trivia[edit | edit source]

  • He hung himself on his birthday.
  • He is likely a Russian due to his name.
  • He owned a tuning fork, that he held in his hand when hung himself and it dropped.
  • He listen to Rachmaninoff, Piano Concerto No 2.
  • His character seems similar to Gilliam from the film.

Gallery[edit | edit source]

References[edit | edit source]